Michael Mitchell Supporter Pastor of Godsbarnchurch.com

I do not know essentially anything about investigative judgement. Not to be negative with the seventh day Adventist folk, but I personally dont follow such tenants. Many religions have modified, added or taken away from or original principals of Christian doctrine. I personally try to keep my belief simple. Adding man made ideas simply detracts from the sound doctrine of the Bible. The Catholic theology, Liturgical folks have all added man made theology. Also most Christian churches to some degree practice this.

The Jehovah Witness folks have added the date of 1914 as a turning point in theology, teaching folks up to 1914 go to Heavon while after that they are in a different category. While these concepts are interesting, they can also hamper the Christian faith. Different concepts such as these can cause man made pride in the believer, installing a false system that gives the group a feeling that they have the inside track on God. 

This concept can isolate a group from the body of Christ. Limiting the teaching and concepts of our Lord and Savior. This can also be found in LDS doctrine. As a minister for Christ I should be able to preach or teach Biblical principals in any church, or for that matter attend a service. Sadly that is not the case. Yet the Bible tells us we are the Church of Christ, not many little different ones. 

Division such as this, can hurt all believers and non believers. It can and does encourage folks to pick and choose. I don't go there they believe in this, or don't believe in that. And as mans quest to ignore or rewrite the Word, it will continue. At best it creates small fractional groups. Isn't that one of satens tools divide and conquer?

Some may say there are different interpretations of the same Bible or that many different paths that lead to the same salvation. Personally I don't believe that is the case.

January 06 2014 • 1 response • Vote Up • Share • Report

Nathan Toronga Supporter Christian Elder.

Dear Rajesh, your question has a most interesting tone - it sounds like you accept the concept of a pre-Advent Judgment, and that your only concern is whether 1844 was the year that it began.

Well, let me start by demonstrating that indeed there will be a pre-Advent Judgment, the 'Investigative Judgment'. This is a term coined by SDA's - you can call it by any name you prefer.

It is a Review of the records of the children of God. After which their sins are 'blotted'. (see Psalm 32:1; Psalm 51:1,9; Isaiah 43:25.)
Thus, the Investigative Judgment is NOT for unbelievers, ie, those who have rebelled against the Covenant, even though they may call themselves Christians.

1 Peter 4:17. "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?"

Daniel 7:10. "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened." (This is a scene in heaven. See Dan 7:13-14).

Unbelievers will be judged according to Rev 20:12-15. Please notice that there is NO-ONE who is cleared under this phase. Re-read, and you'll notice that all who are subject to this judgment are unbelievers.
The saved are ALL raised at Rev 20:4. See also 4:13-17 and 1 Cor 15:51-52.

The point I'm bringing out is that our judgment will NOT be a public affair - our records are reviewed before the rebels are judged. We are reviewed during the tenure of the current earth.

I hope this clarifies the approximate timing of the review of the records of the children of God.

Now, when did this pre-Advent Judgment begin?
Daniel 8:14 says it would be 2300 days and nights, then the Sanctuary would be cleansed.
Where do we start to count?

Dan 8:13 asks, “…….How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled – the vision concerning the DAILY SACRIFICE, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?”
This is where we start to count, if we can find the pointers to the commencement of these events. Because from there, it will take 2300 days and nights. Dan 8:14

Dan 9:25-27 repeats these events, but also has the key to when we should start the count-down. ‘From the issuing of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem’ Dan 9:25.

When was that issued? 457/6 BC.

So you add 456 BC to 1844 AD and you have 2300!

I hope you find this useful.

Bless.

March 05 2014 • 13 responses • Vote Up • Share • Report

Tamara Kaye Supporter Wife & Mother, Follower of Jesus

There is no invisible day of judgement and Christ did not and will not return invisibly. The JWs have a similar teaching to the 7th Day Adventists, but they have chosen a different date (which was originally 1874 now 1914) 

Please consider Matthew 25:31-36.

March 10 2014 • 0 responses • Vote Up • Share • Report